曰:“奚之?
To "make a name' is to clash with others, knowledge' is a tool in competition.
”曰:“将之卫。
Both of them are sinister tools, of no use in perfecting conduct.
”曰:“奚为焉?
Then again, to be ample in Power and solid in sincerity but lack insight into others' temperaments, not enter into competition for reputation but lack insight into others' hearts, yet insist in the presence of the tyrant on preaching about Goodwill and Duty and the lines laid down for us, this amounts to taking advantage of someone's ugliness to make yourself look handsome.
”曰:“回闻卫君,其年壮,其行独;轻用其国,而不见其过;轻用民死,死者以国量乎泽若蕉,民其无如矣。
The name for it is "making a pest of oneself'.
回尝闻之夫子曰:‘治国去之,乱国就之,医门多疾’。
Make a pest of oneself, and others will certainly make pests of themselves in return.
愿以所闻思其则,庶几其国有瘳乎!
I rather fancy that someone is going to be a pest to you.
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仲尼曰:“嘻!
Another thing: if you do think he favours clever people and dislikes fools, will it do you any good to try to be especially clever?
若殆往而刑耳!
Better not get into an argument.
夫道不欲杂,杂则多,多则扰,扰则忧,忧而不救。
A king or duke is sure to pit his wits against one's own with the whole weight of his authority behind him.
古之至人,先存诸己而后存诸人。
Your eye he'll dazzle, Your look he'll cow, Your mouth he'll manage, Your gesture he'll shape, Your heart he'll form.
所存于己者未定,何暇至于暴人之所行!
You will find yourself using fire to quell fire, water to quell water, the name for it is 'going from bad to worse'.
“且若亦知夫德之所荡而知之所为出乎哉?
Being submissive at the start that is how you will always be.
德荡乎名,知出乎争。
I am afraid that he will lose faith in your fulsome words, and so you'll be sure to die at the tyrant's hands.
名也者,相轧也;知也者,争之器也。
'One more point.
二者凶器,非所以尽行也。
Formerly Kuan Lung-feng was executed by Chieh and Prince Pi-kan by Chow.
“且德厚信矼,未达人气,名闻不争,未达人心。
Both were men meticulous in their personal conduct who as ministers offended emperors by sympathising with their subjects.
而强以仁义绳墨之言術暴人之前者,是以人恶有其美也,命之曰菑人。
Consequently their lords found their meticulousness a reason to get rid of them.
菑人者,人必反菑之,若殆为人菑夫?
These were men who desired a good name.
且苟为悦贤而恶不肖,恶用而求有以异?
And formerly Yao attacked Tsung, Chih and Hsu-ao, Yu attacked Yu-hu, the countries were reduced to empty wastes and hungry ghosts, the rulers were executed.
若唯无诏,王公必将乘人而斗其捷。
There was no end to their calls to arms, no respite in their aspiration to great deeds.
而目将荧之,而色将平之,口将营之,容将形之,心且成之。
All these men were seekers of the name or the deed, and don't tell me you haven't heard of them!
是以火救火,以水救水,名之曰益多。
A good name, a great deed, tempt even the sage, and do you think you're any better?
顺始无穷,若殆以不信厚言,必死于暴人之前矣!
However, I am sure you have something in mind.
“且昔者桀杀关龙逢,纣杀王子比干,是皆修其身以下伛拊人之民,以下拂其上者也,故其君因其修以挤之。
Let me hear about it.